Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/05/2001 03:20 PM House L&C

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SB 10 - EXTENDED BOARD OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTANCY                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be SENATE BILL NO. 10, "An  Act extending the termination date of                                                               
the Board of Public Accountancy."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0096                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER BRAKES,  Staff to Senator  Gene Therriault,  Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, testified  on behalf of Senator  Therriault, sponsor                                                               
of SB  10.  Ms. Brakes  informed the committee that  the Board of                                                               
Public  Accountancy consists  of seven  members appointed  by the                                                               
governor.   She said, "Each  member shall  be a resident  of this                                                               
state for  at least one  year.  There  are five members  that ...                                                               
shall be certified public accountants,  or public accountants and                                                               
two members shall be ... members of the public."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. BRAKES informed  the committee that the  bill packet includes                                                               
SB 10  as well  as a  zero fiscal  note.   She stated,  "The bill                                                               
simply extends  the Board of  Public Accountancy to ...  June 30,                                                               
2005.   If the legislature does  not take action, the  board will                                                               
terminate  on  June   30,  2001,  and  will  have   one  year  to                                                               
administratively conclude  its affairs."  The  bill packet should                                                               
also  include  a   copy  of  the  audit  from   the  Division  of                                                               
Legislative  Audit ["Legislative  Audit"]  that  was released  on                                                               
December 6,  2000.  She said  that the division found  "the board                                                               
to  be   safeguarding  the  public   interest  by   ensuring  the                                                               
competence and integrity of those  who hold themselves out ... to                                                               
the   public   as   certified  public   accountants   or   public                                                               
accountants."   The division also  recommended that the  board be                                                               
extended to June 30, 2005.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BRAKES pointed  out that  there  were three  recommendations                                                               
made by Legislative  Audit.  The first  two recommendations speak                                                               
to the regulations  of the board.  The third  recommends that the                                                               
governor make  more timely  appointments to  vacant seats  on the                                                               
board.    The  audit  includes  the  board's  response  to  those                                                               
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0314                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CATHERINE REARDON, Director,  Division of Occupational Licensing,                                                               
Department of Community &  Economic Development (DCED), concurred                                                               
with Ms. Brakes' testimony.   Ms. Reardon testified in support of                                                               
the  continuation  of the  Board  of  Public Accountancy  by  the                                                               
division and the department.  She offered to answer questions.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI asked if the  board is responsible for submitting                                                               
names to the  governor when there is a vacancy  on the board, and                                                               
how that appointment process is handled.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  REARDON answered  that it  is  not a  responsibility of  the                                                               
board.   She pointed  out that  people can,  at any  time, submit                                                               
applications  to the  governor's office  to serve  on any  of the                                                               
licensing boards.   She said when  there is a vacancy,  and there                                                               
aren't sufficient applications on  file at the governor's office,                                                               
then the governor's staff solicits applications.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  REARDON informed  the committee  that  people interested  in                                                               
these positions merely need to send  a letter saying who they are                                                               
and what qualifies them for the  board, along with a contact name                                                               
and  number.    Generally,  the   governor's  office  wants  more                                                               
applicants  for  these  boards  and wants  to  keep  the  process                                                               
[simple] for public members, in  particular.  It can be difficult                                                               
to find public members that are willing and able to serve.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 0484                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   MURKOWSKI   said   in    the   division's   response   to                                                               
Recommendation  3  [from  Legislative  Audit],  the  board  would                                                               
attempt  to  facilitate  in  any   way  possible,  assisting  the                                                               
governor's office in finding board  members.  She asked about the                                                               
nomination process  and whether applications should  be submitted                                                               
to the governor's office.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 0561                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. REARDON  clarified that she  had received an e-mail  from the                                                               
chair  of the  board suggesting  how to  respond.   She said  she                                                               
assumed the  board chair might  contact the  [particular] society                                                               
and encourage people to submit their names.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0646                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. REARDON  said the  difficulty in filling  board seats  is not                                                               
just a  problem with the  Board of Public Accountancy,  but comes                                                               
up as  a problem  with different  boards at  various times.   She                                                               
said one vacancy  doesn't usually cause a problem but  it is nice                                                               
to have everyone,  designated to have a seat, at  the table.  She                                                               
said in  a board where there  are four licensees, and  one public                                                               
member, it  isn't such  an issue,  but [on  the boards]  that the                                                               
legislature  has  decided to  describe  three  or four  different                                                               
kinds of  people that  should be on  the board,  then [vacancies]                                                               
are felt.   She said at some point, it  becomes a quorum problem,                                                               
because  the quorum  is  the majority  of the  seats.   She  said                                                               
meeting dates could  be difficult [to schedule] if  there are too                                                               
many vacancies on the board.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  REARDON  said  the  governor's office  takes  the  issue  of                                                               
filling vacant seats  seriously.  She said there  are roughly 125                                                               
board  seats,  just  in  her   division,  that  are  expiring  at                                                               
different times during  the year.  She said there  are either 400                                                               
or 700  appointed spots on boards  or commissions governmentwide.                                                               
She acknowledged that it is  a big challenge and sometimes "they"                                                               
get  behind.   However, she  feels the  boards can  fulfill their                                                               
statutory responsibilities  and are  complying with  the statutes                                                               
when they meet.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0796                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  REARDON noted  that a  person  serving in  a board  position                                                               
continues to serve  until he or she is replaced.   She said there                                                               
are not vacancies unless a person has chosen to resign.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MURKOWSKI  said she is  satisfied that the  concerns raised                                                               
about the regulation [from the audit] are being addressed.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  REARDON explained  that  there is  a  difference of  opinion                                                               
between  Legislative  Audit  and  the board  as  to  whether  the                                                               
regulation   requiring   specific    continuing   education   for                                                               
supervising accountants is  appropriate.  She said  the board has                                                               
addressed the second issue [from  the audit] and added a question                                                               
to  their application  to ensure  that supervisors  are licensed.                                                               
However, she  anticipates this difference  in opinion  to remain.                                                               
She said she  doesn't expect the board to reverse  its opinion in                                                               
regulation - as they feel strongly about it.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0906                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HALCRO made a motion  to move SB 10 from committee                                                               
with  individual recommendations  and  the  attached zero  fiscal                                                               
note.  There  being no objection, SB 10 was  moved from the House                                                               
Labor and Commerce Standing Committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

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